Sarah Dewland that married George Martin Bailey and emigrated to South Africa living in Newlands in Cape Town was my second great grandmother. I see two tohers related to her too and no doubt we are distant cousins. Thank you for this great website- I miight be able to fill a few gaps now
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Like Neil Brachi, I found this site while doing a search for Pete Franklin. During the 1960s I used to enjoy going to the Shipwrights Arms in Poole in order to see Pete perform. I felt at the time that he deserved wider recognition and I have searched on the internet from time to time without success to see if there are any recordings available of him.
Hi Chris yes sthey are the same Beckinghams as my families:)
Hi there,somewhere here on your site you mention a Beckingham being a pub landlord in Kinson,i believe my Grandfather [mothers side] run the Shoulder of Mutton,just up from bear cross and was wondering if it was perhaps the same family.Trouble is i`m not sure what his first name was,one son was William, another was Edward [Canada] Died youngish believed to be an alcoholic but only heresay.
My name is Osborne and went to Kinson school other family names are Fry,Brinson,Black,Cox,Samuel,cheers.
i have been looking at my family tree for a long timeand have got back to the 1600, but a lot of infomation which is being put out by the laterday saints is not correct ,i do have wills going back to 1600 but haveing gone over them i have come back to 1794 mary gulliver bp 28 june1794 when she was born in little marsh at semington had a son james gulliver17 nov 1817 in semington lane wilts no farther and is mother does not name her parents,thats after going over all information fron some that did a seach for me 15yrs a go. i like your site . ron gulliver.
I am so excited to find this page, I was just looking for information about Kinson Pottery, as I lived next door, on Ringwood Road, my husband and I were reminiscing about the old days, we now live in Canada, we would love to get involved in the history of this area, we have many memories, my grandfather worked at Kinson Pottery, his name was Ernest Frend, and my father whose name was Horace Allner worked at Bluebird Caravans, my husband and I worked at E.F. Phillips and Sons on Mannings Heath Road until 1974, we would love to hear from anybody that has any connection thank you so much for this great site.
In 1795 my great, great, great, great grandfather John Scadding was hung at Dorchester Goal. I Very much enjoyed reading your site, especially Judge Jefferies!
I read your website with great interest as my Grandmother is Agnes Rogers born 1887 Poole. Daughter of Charles Henry Rogers ( brickmaker) born 1867 Poole and Mary Emma Curtis born 1864 died 1962. Both lived at the junction of Ringwood road and Old Wareham road.
Great site that I was led to by searching for Pete Franklin.
I was pleased to see Ray's comments about Pete Franklin as I had been searching for traces of this great entertainer.
My father lived in Warbarrow as a boy and as a consequence we ended up living at Kimmeridge for many years. I remembered many nights in the local pubs and barn dances, especially at Church Knowle and hence my search for Pete Franklin was to try and find out if any of his performances had ever been recorded.
If anyone knows of any recordings I would love find out where you can purchase them. There is a raft a memoriesentangled in his music which is probably hightened in my mind by the fact that I now live on the other side of the world.
Thank you so much for all the work. I was excited to see Peter's information about Sarah Dewland. I am descended from George Bailey from Newlands. I knew his wife was Sarah, but was not sure if it was Sarah dewland. George Bailey (I wasn't aware of the Martin as a middle name) - was buried here in Cape Town in 1902 - his grave states he was originally from Dorsetshire. I have him as the son of Thomas and Mary Bailey. I know little of Dorsetshire, but have ascertained that they were woodsmen in the west moors, west Parley.
I would love to share more info with Peter. Is is possible he who posted a picture of my great grandmother, Annie Lavinia Bailey, on his blog?
RE: Catherine Steele 2011 10 19
Henry Joihn Moore 's wife Maria Cox of Newfoundland
My father's family are all born and bred in Dorset .
My maiden name was Eyers and their roots are in and around Sturminster Newton. Other names are Moore, Miller, Vater, Barnes, Hopkins, Paddock, Roberts, Gough, Web, Cuff, Cole Dorrington, to name but a few!
William Barnes, The Dorset Poet, was the brother of my 4xGreat Grandfather, John Barnes, making him my 5x Great Uncle.
My 2xGreat Grandfather was Henry John Moore who was a deep sea fisherman, sailing to Newfoundland over several years between c1865 and c1880. His wife Maria Cox was born over there, but I suspect her family has Dorset origins aswell, but I have been unable to go back much further at the moment. I would love to find out more about the life they led on the Atlantic Ocean!
My name is Vanessa & my maternal Ancestry comes from Kinson / East Howe.
I've really enjoyed reading your web pages.
I am extremely interested in the Kinson / East Howe / Wallisdown (Highmoor) area.
I am directly descended from the WAYMAN (sic) family of Kinson.(baptisms begin in 1688 of the 13 children of John & Elizabeth WAYMAN at St Andrews) .
Hannah WAYMAN married James GIBBS & their grandchild Jasper GIBBS married a grandaughter of William RIGLER.
Both the GIBBS & RIGLER families can be found on the 1841 & subsequent census' residing at East Howe.
Both my Great Grandmother & my Mother were born in a large late Georgian house (named Forest View - because you could see the New Forest from it when it was built!) which until the late 60s stood along Kinson Road, between the East Howe Post Office and the Cherret's house on the corner of Edward Road.
It was built on the footprint of an earlier cottage (one wall of the single story part was made of the original cobb) by Harriet GANDER (nee RIGLER) and her husband Job who came from Lytchett Minster.
The Post Office / Bungalow next door, was later also built by them and was run by another member of the family.
Harriet GANDER & later her neice Elizabeth Talbot GIBBS (who was her sister's illegitimate daughter, whom she raised) and subsequently my Great Grandmother, Harriet Annie GIBBS, who inherited the property had commoner rights on what is now Moorside Common, (part of Turburary / Kinson Common) and she used to keep chickens & a pig on it.
My Great Grandmother, Harriet Gibbs (who was named after her Great Aunt), was the first girl to be baptised at St Mark's Talbot Village in 1870. I have been led to believe that she played in Howe Lodge in Brook Road as a young girl!
Her parents and several others of my extended ancestry are buried in the small Congregational Chapel graveyard on the corner of East Howe Lane. I would like to know what is going to happen to it, as it's presently up for sale along with the United Reformed Church building.
Other ancestors of mine are buried at St Andrews. St Marks and Kinson Cemetery.
I am trying to find out whether Weymans Avenue is named after the Wayman / Weyman Family of Kinson, did they have a farm there?
As a lot of the other roads are named after Kinson families or farms (Durdell, Cudnell, Headswell, East Howe, Home etc.)
I thought it likely.
I'll probably have to go and look at old maps of Kinson at the Dorset History Centre to find out.
I can answer your question about the photo of the old thatched cottage in front of the block of flats on your Kinson Village page.
It is Moorside Cottage (the home of Mr Wilcox) which stood on the corner of Poole Lane and Moore Avenue (opposite the Osprey Public House). There are 2 bungalows there today,
It must have been demolished after the flats were built in the early 1960s as I don't remember it - I was born on the West Howe Esate in 1959 and had friends who lived in the flats who I used to play with in the middle to late 60s)
I believe that Mr Wilcox died in the early 60s, so this would make sense.
I do remember the thatched cottages that used to be in Tedder Close and also that the cottages just inside Draper Road (opposite Draper House) were also thatched, but are now tiled.
Also my parents were close friends of the White family who lived in Primrose Cottages along East Howe Lane - I believe that they along with the public house opposite are the last remaining thatched cottages in the area - so sad that they have all gone now.
By the way, I also have DENNIS Ancestry from Fontmell - my Great Grandmother, Harriet GIBBS (mentioned above) married George SNOOK from East Orchard whose mother was Ellen DENNIS grandaughter of William DENNIS (of Fontmell). William was born about 1781 in the Fontmell area, but I don't have his ancestry, so he may be connected to your Stephen DENNIS (possibly even his brother!).
I'll have to investigate whether there is a link - such a small world!!
Keep up the marvellous work,
With regards to brickworks in the area.
My great grandfather Rogers and his family operated a number of brickyards in the area then .
There was also the Omnium brick company and Dorset brick company.Sankey ward operated clay pits at broom road and old wareham road.
As a child I lived at the family small holding farm opposite the family brickyard at mannings heath- the brickworks chimney was a focal point just like the water tower at canford/old wareham road.This could also be seen from poole.
There were a few brickworks I think ? but the main one was Elliots at West Howe as far as I know but will have a look at a few old books I have about kinson .
I have just found this site, whilst I was searching for brickyards at Kinson. My ancestor was Charles Cherrett born born 1796 married to Elizabeth Sweetland and then Louisa Pain. Charles was a brickmaker and I am trying to find out where his brickworks may have been. If anyone has any information regarding Charles and his family I would like to hear from them.
dear sit owner plz could u help me fint a henery language or his married name was herny white i am trying to find him for my dad and if u could find any more of my familey could somone plz email me at email@example.com and could u put the link to the website in the email plz i would very gratfull if any one could help me thanks very much from david
sorry I should have said my husbans grandparents were Harry &Elsie Cole nee Francis ok
My husband s were Harry Cole and Elsie Francis any info would be very welcome ,or where could I look for help please best wishes to all from Jean
dear site owner and other members,i come from a long line of coopers as we are spread far and wide,i myself am from the salisbury area their are quite alot of us up here related and non related.
HiJenny where are your Coopers? do you mean dorset or another area?
my relation were John and Elizabeth also
My family are coopers on my dads side of the family was coopers and lee ..my'''' dads great grandfather was perrin cooper perrins son was ;;;harry boots cooper // my dads great grandmother was maria stanley witch was perrins wife of course / dads grandfather was harry boots cooper and his ;;; grand mother was fontelia lee <<<<that was her madin name lee>>> Dad is Edward Cooper His momS name was Genevieve Cooper I just thought id fill some of this in i have lots more family id love too find out who they are
hi site owner,does anybody out there know anything or know of the cooper family that lived in holt nr wimborne in the very late 60,s or early 70,s. thanks
Hello, what a wonderful informative read i have had this afternoon, lots of years of hard work im sure. Just to let you know why i felt i had to have a read, i see you have Balch in your lists of interested family names. My grandmother was a balch born 1904 in monmouthshire, i decided to follow this line back and the family come from Batcombe and brewham in somerset, they also seem to go to cardiff and swansea in wales.
I have managed to get to 1811 with Samuel Balch who married Jane in Somerset and for me that were i have stopped, having trouble finding his parents.Im sure i will find they at some point, i enjoyed your site enornously.
My maternal great-grandmother Sarah Dewland was born in January 1834 in Long Crichel. She was the daughter of Charles Dewland, who is listed in censuses as an agricultural laborer, and then, in 1861, as “formerly carter” (b. Hinton Martell, ca. 1805–d. 1851/61, the son of James Dewland of Hinton Martell, d. January 29, 1817), and Jane Wheeler (b. Long Crichel ca. 1810–d. 1881/91), listed in the 1861 census as an agricultural laborer. In January 1862, Sarah and her husband, George Martin Bailey (whose place of birth I have not identified), sailed with their three children as assisted immigrants to South Africa on the wooden ship John Vanner. According to the ship’s manifest, a “Mr. Cole, Newlands” expected them, and I have supposed this to have been Eldred Mowbray Cole, the Cape Colony’s auditor-general, who lived in Newlands at that time (it was a very small place and no other Coles are listed). Eldred Cole was a cousin of Prime Minister Edward Smith-Stanley, 14th earl of Derby. I'd love to hear from anyone who knows anything about any of these people!
Love your site, what a wonderful way to spend a Sunday evening. My mother and her sisters were the last in their line to have the surname Beckenham(Beckingham), as there were no brothers. Francis Beckingham and Ellen Coomber were my g g grandparents.
I visited Kinson on my last trip across the pond. My grandparents lived there for awhile and many of my aunts and uncles were
christened or baptised ( whatever ) at St. Andrews parish. I have a photo of them taken at West Howe Rd. Interesting read about
the village. Very cool place...Love your sites...Karen
Really nice way you have set up the site makes me quite homesick!!! love the old pictures and brings back many memories of my childhood thanks for putting old Kinson on the web !!! A great place even though its not the quaint little village it was years ago it still has that village touch many thanks and I will be back !!!well done.
Hi Ellen will see if My Coles are connected the Saunders family are still local and married into many local families thanks for your kind comments.
This is a wonderful site. Thanks for sharing these precious pieces of your life.
I have bookmarked the stie for sure. Loved the family photos and for me it
brings many of your descriptive poems to life for me.
Take care my friend. I will come visit this site again...so much to see.
My 3x Great Grandmother was a Jane Cole born about 1800, possibly in Canford / Poole, she Married John Saunders, born in Longfleet 1789. I wonder if Jane is connected to your Cole Family ?
Two of my Great Aunts lived on Ringwood Rd, Newtown, they lived next door to one another in two large double fronted houses, at one time I think there was quite alot of land with the houses. One Aunt married a Travers then a Brackstone the other Married a Brown.
My Grandmother Ellen Saunders was reputed to have looked after two of Augustus John's Children, Vivian and Poppet. There has always been talk in the family of possible Gypsy Ancestry, certainly some of the names linked to the Saunders suggest this.
I have very fond memories of the area, I was born in Parkstone and attended Sylvan Rd School and both the old and new Branksome Heath Schools.
Nice and pleasant to the eye and nice to see the old days remembered ,seems life was easier then ! great stuff good luck.
Hello nice to see old Kinson remembered ,i grew up there and went to School,moved or rather emigrated to Aussie a few years ago and was feeling homesick and then stumbled across your site and it really cheered me up so a big thankyou ! love the pictures and the poems and especially some of the old names I remember good luck Tania.
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